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[RANT] Denying Homosexual Couples Commissions

Journal Entry: Mon Jan 27, 2014, 4:15 PM


Oh, boy! Controversy. I'm prepared to look at and discuss any opposing points about this. 
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This has happened to me more than once:

I notice that someone has great art, and I go to look at their commissions. Their prices are pretty affordable, so I ask them to draw Nook and I (and it's always a "fluff"-type pose, like snuggling, or nuzzling, that kind of thing, nothing sexual) 

... and I get a response that just says, "I don't draw gay couples" (Or something along the lines of it). No explanation, no reasoning, just that they don't draw them.
Usually, these people accept straight couples and will draw them without a fuss. So, why refuse a couple when the only difference is that they're of the same gender?
You're really turning down a commissioner because of what's between their (and their loved one's) legs?
What?

It's totally OKAY to not approve of homosexuality, I'm cool with it, as long as you don't try to deny someone basic rights that you would've happily given to someone who was straight, like commissions, for example.

    Commissions are BUSINESS. Many people know very well not to let their personal views get in the way of commissions. Take stamp makers, for example, they very often take commissions for stamps that express views that they don't agree with, and they're fine with it.  Someone is paying you to draw for them.

My final point is, even though it's a matter of personal preference, it's not fair at ALL to deny someone who's gay a commission, when if that person was straight, you would've drawn their requested art for them no problem. 




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:iconwynthorne-wyvernae:
Wynthorne-Wyvernae Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2014  Student Writer
*sighs* Everywhere i turn...
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:iconnicarox2006:
NicaRox2006 Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
They have the right to draw & not draw whatever the hell they want. It is the artist's right.
If you don't like it, then go get another artist who will, simple.
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JewelyCat Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Friend it's discrimination, just like if I wouldn't draw a straight couple based upon my beliefs ( I have nothing wrong with straight people it's just an example ) people would get hella angry
Your personal life and business life are 2 different things and they should be kept separate.
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NicaRox2006 Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It is the artists right; take it how you will. You can't force us to draw things we do not believe in. I am the one providing the business/service, & I have a right to deny you that service if it's something I am uncomfortable with. I won't draw a gay couple, snuggling/kissing or otherwise. Likewise how another artist won't draw religious symbols or no male characters (which I've seen and I have no problem with).
I could argue this further but it would get this discussion nowhere, thus, I leave you with this last input.
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JewelyCat Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That's kind of rude, though, to deny a gay couple a commission you would've gladly given to a straight couple, and its unfair.
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:iconm3talgear:
M3TALGEAR Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2014
the fuck 
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:iconsirtainly:
Sirtainly Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
that's awful ;n; I wish people could just be more understanding, it really annoys me to see people act this way about the gay community asdgfgf ;N;
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CaptainCalypso Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2014
That's really stupid. I don't agree with homosexuality because I'm a Christian and all, but I mean I support you two if that's how you feel. And if someone is stupid enough to not draw just then snuggling, then that's really stuck up and stupid. 
And the sad thing is, if they were just friends, they would draw it. I'm sorry but that's just not right. I may not agree with homosexuality but if it's something like snuggling, yeah I'll draw it. 

Just wow
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:iconpetitebunny-kun:
PetiteBunny-kun Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
What the fuck???? 
That's dumb as hell.
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:iconjumpinglikestoleap:
JumpingLikesToLeap Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
What the hell
That's just
no
don't like homosexuals but don't just deNY
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:iconjumpinglikestoleap:
JumpingLikesToLeap Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
don't like homesexuals that's alright**
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Cat3o4 Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
dat be some messed up stuff.
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danaetheblackcat Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2014  Hobbyist
Okay,I get it if they didn't want to draw them doing something sexual or kissing or something like that (I am not comfortable with drawing these as well) but as long as they are just cuddling or snuggling I don't see what's wrong...I mean,If you DIDN'T tell them that they are a couple,they would probably draw them -.-
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:iconjewelycat:
JewelyCat Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
And I actually didn't, all I requested was Jewel and Nook snuggling lmao
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:icondanaetheblackcat:
danaetheblackcat Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2014  Hobbyist
 That's...stupid.(not your request,the fact that they denied it)
I mean,cuddling is not something that only couples do...Friends and families do it...If you and Nook were friends and not a couple,they would have drawn it...

Homophobes
Homophobes everywhere

(no offense to homophobes,but that is actually annoying)
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:iconjewelycat:
JewelyCat Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm offended by the person I was trying to commission TBH 
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:icondanaetheblackcat:
danaetheblackcat Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2014  Hobbyist
Can't balme you :I
 I don't even know who it is,but I am kinda mad at them now...
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SpitfiresOnIce Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
What if they just were just friends, then they WOULD draw them, so unless they are doing sexual stuff, I don't see the problem? And since it's a cute snuggly pose I just... don't understand.
I luckily never had this problem (yet) but it could happen to me and my girlfriend, too.

I mean, if you're not comfortable with gays and don't wanna draw them kissing, fine. But cuddles? Friends can cuddle too, and parents with their children. I don't see why they'd have to turn it down just because the characters are more than friends?!
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JewelyCat Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Exactly !!!
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:iconmegaespeon:
MegaEspeon Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Not even, actually.
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:iconmegaespeon:
MegaEspeon Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
It's called being penny-wise and dollar foolish.
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:iconboltythecat:
Boltythecat Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
just hearing about this pisses me off... wtf.
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:iconkuutie:
kuutie Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014
PREACH MY GIRL
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:iconsilvervoid1:
silverVOID1 Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
that is the most messed up thing i've heard

i don't see what's the difference between straights and gays besides the gender stuff

i mean

we're all still in love, we're all still people

i don't see how being straight makes you superior, or vice versa

i just don't get it
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JewelyCat Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Truth!! There's *NO* difference between a straight couple and a gay couple besides what's between their legs, and honestly, if that's all that matters to you in what makes a straight couple so much more tolerable than a gay couple than you're the most shallow person on Earth
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silverVOID1 Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
definitely. and all the anti-gay marriage crap is pathetic as well, if you truly love someone enough to commit yourself to them i don't see what the problem is. 

so really i don't think that's fair that she turned your commission down, i mean she gets paid so?? it's not going to kill her
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JewelyCat Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Agreed 100% friend!!
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:iconth3frgt10warrior:
Th3Frgt10Warrior Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Agreed. 

I FULLY AGREE.
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Purolli Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014
I hate that! I'm straight, but I would never deny a commission because of that?? I support all couples, my best friend is Bi irl, I would never EVER judge her, or ANYONE for that matter for ANY REASON, we are all human! Heck we can't handle having different skin color, I am not shocked to hear this. Considering out world is so low!
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:iconjewelycat:
JewelyCat Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Exactly, this isn't supposed to happen at businesses in real life, why should it happen here?
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:iconpurolli:
Purolli Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014
Man.. This is irritating, There was this one time? Someone called the girl I was talking about a Faggot because she was bi, I swear you not I beat the living shit out of that person and we just faught right there on the sidewalk XD

I do not stand for homophobics. 
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JewelyCat Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
WOW, if only I was as courageous as you lmao, I'd probably be fighting with kids every day over homophobia
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Purolli Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014
We don't have many people like that around here, but I'm sorry. They like, really picked a fight? They were shoving her and shit, and I just walked over to her and they were shoving her, I didn't know who the people were.. but they went to her school, cause we went to elementary together but she is closer to another middle school then the one I go to, so they knew her. So I started flipping my shit then one said

'What are you gonna do about it short shit?'

Then I FLIPPED A FUCKING SHIT BRICK
Me and my friend laugh about it still today haha, how we were actually laughing about it after the fight, because I really didn't get that hurt?? It wasn't a huge fight, but I kicked one guy in the balls and stomach, and the other probably had a bruised cheek or black eye. o n o
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biostings Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Student Filmographer
What the flip people these days. 
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:iconqhostpaws:
qhostpaws Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist

Oh wow that's horrible!

I'm a Christian, but I would do any commission of anyone if someone wanted me too (and honestly homosexuality doesn't bother me).
This is just messed up.

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JewelyCat Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Agreed, agreed, and agreed some more.
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:iconqhostpaws:
qhostpaws Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I mean, I don't like the draw sexual stuff or naked things (even drawing things kissing bothers me a little). But it's really up to the commissioner.
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JewelyCat Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, and not to mention they're losing a chance to make points/money/whatever they take. 
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:iconqhostpaws:
qhostpaws Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ikr?
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:iconstar-stash-universe:
Star-Stash-Universe Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Student Filmographer
wow that is REALLY OFFENSIVE.

D:< :iconfuckuplz:
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:iconchibiisavannah1000:
ChibiiSavannah1000 Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Wow I didn't know people actually did that?? That's bullshit wtf. Some people are judgmental assholes man
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:iconjewelycat:
JewelyCat Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yep! It pisses me off so much, and it really turns me off from ever trying to commission them again, single character or not. I don't want art from a bigot.
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:iconchibiisavannah1000:
ChibiiSavannah1000 Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Bigots are the worst, why can't we all just respect each other?
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:iconjewelycat:
JewelyCat Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don't know, man, if I were a heterophobe (which, ofc I'm not, but you get the picture) and someone wanted me to draw them and their straight significant other I'd happily do it like ffs if it helps imagine they're friends when drawing them or something 
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ChibiiSavannah1000 Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
People who are 'phobes but still treat the type of people they're "phobic" of with respect are hella rad
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stormfire87 Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Wow, man, that's messed up :/
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JewelyCat Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This has happened to me 4 or 5 times in the past half-year just on the basis that I'm a chick and Nook's a chick. :stare:
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stormfire87 Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
That's not okay, like you said, they're getting PAID to draw the characters, its not like you have a knife up to their neck saying, "Draw these characters or else." I hate stupid judgmental people -_-
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